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To Build or Not to Build Part 4

Answers by Jorge Ayala

To build or not to build in Mexico? Really the question in this case is; If I do wish to build in Mexico what are the laws and liabilities concerning workmen’s compensation insurance or “seguros” as it is commonly referred to here in Baja California ?

In this article with the help of Jorge Ayala we will see some of the most common and frequently asked questions concerning this and how to avoid the pitfalls that may be encountered along the way.

Frequently Asked Questions about seguro social (Mexican Institute for Social Security) and building in Baja:

Q.- I understand in Mexico that as the property owner, I’m ultimately responsible for the payment of seguro (insurance) for any workers on my construction job. Is that true? Can’t I have my contractor pay the seguro and I pay him?


Q.- Are there any special things I should know about reporting to the government that I need to be aware of?

A.- Depending what government office you are referring to, if it’s IMSS, just have your builder or yourself to register all the workers so this way you are covered of having insurance in the case of a worker getting hurt or killed on your project. Because, if you do not, then you are liable for all the worker hospital bills, medicine, etc., even the funeral expenses.

Q.- What about when the job is finished?

A.- I recommend that you write a letter or have someone do it for you, and make it out to the Delegate of the County you are in, and state in it the need of a letter from them that saying that you have complied in all the requirements of Employer-Employees
 


A.- Yes, it’s true. The owner is the final responsible for the workers compensation insurance, even though you might have a contract that it states that the contractor is liable for all of the workers comps obligations and taxes. With IMSS, Institute Mexicano del Seguro Social, the owner of the property is also the Solitary Responsible, meaning if the contractor does not pay them because of various reasons, for example Bankruptcy, he left town and they can not find him anywhere?

This is why I strongly recommend that you hire a third party to do your accounting of the IMSS~INFONAVIT obligations. Or you can put it in the contract, where the contractor will pay this for you, BUT in your Name and that he shall supply you with the receipt every 17th of the month, if he does not comply with this you shall hold off payments until it has been has been taken care of.

Q.- What all do I need to set up an account with seguro? What is the official name of Seguro office?

A.- Its official name is “INSTITUTO MEXICANO DEL SEGURO SOCIAL” and what do you need…

Copies of the following documents:

  • Official I.D. of the employer or representative

    • (Foreigner Passport)

    • Mexican Driver’s Licences

    • IFE Card (Voting Card)

    • Cartilla (Mexican Military I.D.)

  • Official document of where the construction will take place

    • (Fideicomiso) for foreigners

    • Utility Receipt, Water, Telephone, Light Bill CFE

  • Registration before Hacienda (Mexican IRS)

    • (not applied for foreigners as long as you do not have any ongoing business here in Mexico)

  • Corporate Papers (same above)

  • A letter that manifests the authorization for other persons to sign off official papers- formats in the event or doing any movement before the IMSS. For example to put them on or off the payroll listing.

Obligations, also to attach to this letter copies of all the payments occurred so that they can figure out if you have underpaid them, which you will be charged with late fees and the differences for each month, or if you are flat even, or if you have over paid them (this is done when the contractor keeps on dragging on the job for months and months). With this letter from them, this gives you more of a peace of mind knowing that you have done it right.

Q.- What if I did not pay the seguro properly when I had something built in the past? What should I do and what kind of penalties are there for not complying? How do I comply after the fact?

A.-

  • If you can prove somehow that you have built the construction over 5 years ago (you must have evidence such as pictures, receipts or invoices and in some cases some witnesses), you are off the hook, if not? And if you had some part of it paid but you are not sure of the rest? Then, you can apply with the same letter mentioned above. 

  • If you did not pay anything of it within this 5 year period, then you can write a letter same as the above letter but you will not attach any receipts to it.

  • The penalties can be very hefty, but they are there always to help you and if you come in yourself (meaning that you were not left a citation) then they are obligated to assist you in complying with them. I know that there is a law article that states more or less “if a contributor comes in his own will to pay any attributions of taxes that he shall not be fined or charged late fees”

  • In the case you did not pay anything at all, you can apply in writing a letter, saying basically that you did not know about these labor taxes nor were you aware of all the complications of such. Also, that you want to make it right with this obligation.

 

 


Fill out some of their Official Formats:

  • AFIL 01, this form is used to give you an employer tax number or to modify an existing one given.

  • CLEM 01, this form is used to give them an idea of what type of construction you are pretending to build, the types of materials, equipment and tools that you’ll use during the process.

  • AFIL 02, this is used to enroll the workers name and data up in their system.

  • AFIL 15, this form will require the information of the construction, location, building permit information and other. This is the form that shall be posted visibly on the construction site.

  • A sketch-map of the location of the job site.

Here in La Paz you go into their office that is located on 5 de Febrero Blvd and I. Altamirano St. in the second story, go to affiliations and got to window number 3. In Cabo, I’m not familiar where they do this at.

Q.- Where, when and how is Seguros paid?

A.-

  • Where? Any Bank will receive the payment, beware some Banks have their own politics for their client preferences.

  • When? After the end of the month, you have until the 17th of the following month to pay it. Watch out, if you do not pay this on time, you will be fined and it can up to about 40% of the amount to pay that month.

  • How it’s paid? It runs about 32 % of the payroll that is declare to them, which does not work out to be 32% of the Labor Cost (Don’t ask why?), how do you pay it at the Bank? Now days, someone like an accountant or a specialized IMSS consultant will give you a diskette so that you can take this to the bank and they will print out a form and you can then pay it at the Bank Teller. Or, you can also pay it thru you National Bank Online Internet Service.

 


Q.-
What do I do if I find that the seguro payments are not being made as I have contracted to be done?

A.- I would recommend first go to the “PROFECO ~ Procuraduría Federal del Consumidor” This is a consumer affairs office (federal office) and if you do not speak any Spanish at all you can go over to the Department of Tourism and they will help you in getting a translator to assist you at PROFECO, if this does not to the trick then they will turn it to the court system. This should help you in someway with the IMSS authorities at the end.

This is why I recommended from the beginning that you have a third party to do this. Watch out also there are a lots of people who claims that they can do this….. “Simple Rule” Always ask for referrals and check them out.

I want to give my thanks to:

  • The guys at IMSS Affiliation Department in La Paz for their assistance, Tel (612) 122-0715, ext. 117.

·       To the Accountant Ubaldo Verdugo Rodriquez, Tel (612) 122-5307 his direct line (English Spoken), email: ubaldovr@hotmail.com.

Web site you can check out some information:

www.imss.gob.mx/IMSS/IMSS/IMSS_REG/

www.profeco.gob.mx/html/inicio/inicio.htm

Click here to Visit their website

Or Call:
Baja California Real Estate & Consulting
Cabo San Lucas • Las Vegas, NV
(702)-953-8756 or
Cabo San Lucas
624-143-4327

 

I want to thank Jorge for his help on getting these answers for the Baja Insider. I also want to add a little personal experience of my own concerning seguros. One of the main reasons I began looking for these answers was because a contractor I trusted, I had asked that all permits and seguros payments be made for my job and of course they were not. When I asked the contractor for the receipts he just laughed and said I never pay seguros.

Well I went to seguros to pay the late fees and fines so that I would be legal. They did cut the fines and late fees way down and reduced the payment I had to make by half.

I explained to them my frustration as I had wanted these paid knowing I was ultimately liable for these payments. They helped me out and also took all the information of the contractor. This contractor has now spent 3 days in jail for fraud and had to pay $9500.00USD to get out of jail, of which most or all of those funds will be paid to me to finish and repair the building that he built. Seguros also unbeknownst to him is investigating and watching everything he does. In other words there are many Mexicans in the government that do care and will work to help eliminate these bad apples so to speak.

However, it is better to avoid the problem in the first place. I hope you find this information helpful and that you will heed the advice given, especially that of getting referrals. You cannot always tell if someone is who they say they are but their past clients can help a lot in this area.
 


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